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Sat, Oct. 9th, 2004, 06:24 pm
a_darker_shade:

Quick question. Maybe this is just me being really ignorant, but oh well...

What the hell is the point of the write-in option on a ballot? I just don't get it. Obviously if one person votes for you you're not going to win... So what's the point?

//faith

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 12:44 am (UTC)
lookslikelibby

You know, my roomie (not danielle) said something to me about the write in thing after the election... and she said that apparently every year they get so many votes for mickey mouse or something. she didn't cite a source or anything, and joe will be mad i said this, but yeah, even if its not true, i don't get the point either. i feel like - its kind of like, wasting a vote, you know? it doesn't make a lot of sense. maybe they want you to be able to vote for someone who shares your opinions or something if you don't feel like you can vote for any of the candidates?

or maybe like... maybe its..... you know, don't know :( haha. it would be interesting to find out about, though. joe will probably come up with an answer for you.

-Libby

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 12:47 am (UTC)
a_darker_shade

Yeah, knowing him he'll have pleeeeeenty of answer.

I thought about it awhile, and I thought that maybe the point is not to vote FOR someone, but AGAINST someone else? But that doesn't really make sense.

Gah.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 12:57 am (UTC)
lookslikelibby

"Yeah, knowing him he'll have pleeeeeenty of answer.:
that just made me so happy you wouldn't believe :) hahaha its so true.


You've got a point, though. I know a lot of people who voted for Kerry just because they wanted to vote against Bush, and I wouldn't be surprised if people used the write-in thing for the same reason. i agree though, its not really a logical thing to do in my opinion.

it would be cool to meet someone who actually voted by writing someone in and getting their reasoning/opinion about it.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:00 am (UTC)
a_darker_shade

it would be cool to meet someone who actually voted by writing someone in and getting their reasoning/opinion about it.

Yeah, definitely. But like 3 people in the entire country do it.

I know that in the Richmond elections, like MAYBE 1 person (Not even 1 percent, 1 PERSON) in each district would write in...

I really don't understand the concept, and thinking about it hasn't helped. Joe better hurry his verbose little butt up.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:07 am (UTC)
lookslikelibby

joe's got a class tonight :( he'll be home like.... later. but he'll respond, i'm sure.

i don't really know how to go about finding someone who voted by writing in, you know? because there are so few of them. maybe if i dare to go on to the AIM chatrooms or something i can be like "did anyone vote by writing in a candidate?" and they'll be like "look at pictures of my hot sexyness at this website" and i'll be sad.

haha probably not too successful :) you probably have to just stumble upon that kind of person. oh well. i'm eagerly awaiting joe's response as well. i just directed danielley to the comments though so maybe she'll respond :)

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:09 am (UTC)
a_darker_shade

"maybe if i dare to go on to the AIM chatrooms or something i can be like "did anyone vote by writing in a candidate?" and they'll be like "look at pictures of my hot sexyness at this website" and i'll be sad."

::Dies:: XD

I think I love you. ^^; +friend like whoa.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 03:37 am (UTC)
angelzashez: m to the i to the c...

i've heard the mickey mouse thing too! someone told me that he gets a few hundred votes every time...i saw the write in thing on the ballot, but it was a touch screen computer! a touch in? whoa dude, whoa.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:11 am (UTC)
fooganschnot: burger up

I certainly don't know alot about government, but I think that write-ins are pretty necessary to have a democratic election. At least, one as important as American President. I agree that it takes votes away or maybe it's just to prove a point, but that's on a personal level. If there were only two boxes that said, "check one," there is a chance for... I don't know the word... *turns to Libby* "Libby, what's a word that means bad, confining, undemocratic, forced?" *Libby stares back* "You're on your own dude"

You need the write in option to make sure that the government doesn't force you to choose between only two candidates. There could be corruption--maybe someone is power hungry--and your legitimate write in has the chance to win the election. It's so hard for me to articulate, but I think it's stupid, but if we didn't allow write-ins, we might as well be authoritarian.

Danielley

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:16 am (UTC)
a_darker_shade: Re: burger up

I think I understand what you're saying. Sort of.

x_o

But it still seems like a stupid, pointless thing to me. ><

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 01:25 am (UTC)
lookslikelibby: Re: burger up

that kinda makes sense i guess. i thought of that in a way, like maybe they have to do it just so they can call us a democracy or something, but it doesn't really DO anything. especially if people write in mickey mouse.

danielley's over here like "i don't DO politics" but she comes up with the best answer :) she's so silly.

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 03:04 am (UTC)
silk6953: Well,

as I understand, write-ins actually have been succesful... usually on local level though. I don't really know whether a national post has been won by a write-in, but I know that write-ins often win positions such as school board, superintendent, etc.

I figure we might as well have it... we should be allowed to vote for whoever we want (especially if its mickey mouse... haha)

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 03:17 am (UTC)
checkyourfacts

Under the Constitution, elections even for national positions are run by the states themselves. In this election we saw certain states deny Nader appearance on the ballot. This is because he didn't fulfill requirements (petition numbers, most likely) to be on the ballot. This does not mean that people can't vote for him The write-in protects people from corruption on the state level. People are allowed to vote for whichever candidate they want, not necessarily among the choices given.

That being said, "write-ins" have largely had similar effects as third parties. There hasn't been a major case where write-ins have determined an election or has won a high-level position, but sometimes they affect issues at the local level. The reason you feel like it's wasting your vote is because it is, just like voting third party. But that's the problem with our two party system... :-\

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 03:18 am (UTC)
a_darker_shade

::Grins::

Thank you, Joe!

I knew I could count on you. =)

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 03:28 am (UTC)
checkyourfacts

You're Welcome. As always, it's my pleasure