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Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004, 02:35 pm
libbymonster:

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100804/political-voting-logic.gif

thought this might make you laugh a little bit.

but to make it more serious, do people actually do things like that? i mean... not on sandwiches... but in elections. it seems about as smart as voting for mickey mouse :)

Wed, Nov. 10th, 2004 07:41 pm (UTC)
libbymonster

just... fyi.. i remembered that this is a place where i'm likely to get crticized... i know that the above link is meant to be funny - its a joke, right, i gotcha...

but do people actually vote for someone just because they think that person is going to win? like... let's say Bush and Kerry and Grim were all running for President... would someone who wanted Grim in office vote for Kerry just because they thought Kerry would win and "hey, he's better than Bush"? does that kind of thing actually happen?

sorry... that doesn't make sense... my brain is fried and i'm stressed out so my thoughts aren't that clear. hopefully someone will understand what i'm trying to say, though.

Thu, Nov. 11th, 2004 06:30 pm (UTC)
moosepiss9: Well of course

I would argue there are some who do jump on that band wagon... they are the people we're trying to reach. They're too lazy to form their OWN opinion, and therefore ignorant of the real issues. They're the ones who quote media opinions as their own because it's easier, they're the ones who speak on talking points because it's easier... they're the ones who gladly give up their civil liberties ignorantly becasue it's easier. For example, supporters of the Patriot Act. I've only done a little bit of reading on it (which I will post as soon as I can), but so far I see am Act that limits the abilities of us as citixens to take an active role in our government. More on this later. Do you think people vote for the ones who look like they're gonna win? Yes, some do. And it's probably why Bush got re-elected... because it was easier. And he has Fox News in his pocket. But that's another post. Later ya'll.

Fri, Nov. 12th, 2004 07:25 pm (UTC)
angelzashez: haha!

there's something to be said for wanting to be on the winning team...

but is that why bush won? no : )

a three and a half million person bandwagon would be awful lucky.

Fri, Nov. 12th, 2004 10:43 pm (UTC)
lookslikelibby: Re: haha!

i wasn't asking if bush won because of that.

i just wanted to know if people use that kind of logic to vote.

Fri, Nov. 12th, 2004 11:08 pm (UTC)
checkyourfacts: Re: haha!

This is actually fairly common. Many people disagree with the platforms of both parties, or specific aspects of those platforms, but in spite of that they vote for the candidate because he's "not the other guy." Another example would be someone who believes in a third party candidate (i.e. Nader) but votes for one of the two party candidates because they don't think Nader can win.

I've never heard of the bandwagon approach being a reason to vote for a candidate, but a candidates supposed popularity certainly influences people. I certainly think a more common fallacy than bandwagon is oversimplification. We almost always see flyers from Right to Life saying that you should vote for Republicans because they have christian values and Democrats are issues, and this is just an example among many things. People boil things down to one issue (abortion, gay marriage, tax cuts, terrorism) and they choose a candidate based on that issue alone. But there are a lot of fallacies in the way people decide to vote, I'm sure bandwagon is one of them.

Mon, Nov. 15th, 2004 04:38 pm (UTC)
angelzashez: stop. it's hammer time.

And it's probably why Bush got re-elected... because it was easier.

sorry! meant to hit reply to that person.